Very nice plan! Big +1 for the overall approach.

On Thursday, April 7th, 2022 at 17:38, Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com wrote:

The drm_connector brightness properties

bl_brightness: rw 0-int32_max property controlling the brightness setting of the connected display. The actual maximum of this will be less then int32_max and is given in bl_brightness_max.

Do we need to split this up into two props for sw/hw state? The privacy screen stuff needed this, but you're pretty familiar with that. :)

bl_brightness_max: ro 0-int32_max property giving the actual maximum of the display's brightness setting. This will report 0 when brightness control is not available (yet).

I don't think we actually need that one. Integer KMS props all have a range which can be fetched via drmModeGetProperty. The max can be exposed via this range. Example with the existing alpha prop:

"alpha": range [0, UINT16_MAX] = 65535

bl_brightness_0_is_min_brightness: ro, boolean When this is set to true then it is safe to set brightness to 0 without worrying that this completely turns the backlight off causing the screen to become unreadable. When this is false setting brightness to 0 may turn the backlight off, but this is not guaranteed. This will e.g. be true when directly driving a PWM and the video-BIOS has provided a minimum (non 0) duty-cycle below which the driver will never go.

Hm. It's quite unfortunate that it's impossible to have strong guarantees here.

Is there any way we can avoid this prop?

For instance if we can guarantee that the min level won't turn the screen completely off we could make the range start from 1 instead of 0. Or allow -1 to mean "minimum value, maybe completely off".

bl_brightness_control_method: ro, enum, possible values: none: The GPU driver expects brightness control to be provided by another driver and that driver has not loaded yet. unknown: The underlying control mechanism is unknown. pwm: The brightness property directly controls the duty-cycle of a PWM output. firmware: The brightness is controlled through firmware calls. DDC/CI: The brightness is controlled through the DDC/CI protocol. gmux: The brightness is controlled by the GMUX. Note this enum may be extended in the future, so other values may be read, these should be treated as "unknown".

When brightness control becomes available after being reported as not available before (bl_brightness_control_method=="none") a uevent with CONNECTOR=<connector-id> and

PROPERTY=<bl_brightness_control_method-id> will be generated

at this point all the properties must be re-read.

When/once brightness control is available then all the read-only properties are fixed and will never change.

Besides the "none" value for no driver having loaded yet, the different bl_brightness_control_method values are intended for (userspace) heuristics for such things as the brightness setting linearly controlling electrical power or setting perceived brightness.

Can you elaborate? I don't know enough about brightness control to understand all of the implications here.