When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
But in nonblocking mode userspace has then no idea this happened, which can lead to spurious EBUSY calls, both: - when that other CRTC is currently busy doing a page_flip the ALLOW_MODESET commit can fail with an EBUSY - on the other CRTC a normal atomic flip can fail with EBUSY because of the additional commit inserted by the kernel without userspace's knowledge
For blocking commits this isn't a problem, because everyone else will just block until all the CRTC are reconfigured. Only thing userspace can notice is the dropped frames without any reason for why frames got dropped.
Consensus is that we need new uapi to handle this properly, but no one has any idea what exactly the new uapi should look like. Since this has been shipping for years already compositors need to deal no matter what, so as a first step just try to enforce this across drivers better with some checks.
v2: Add comments and a WARN_ON to enforce this only when allowed - we don't want to silently convert page flips into blocking plane updates just because the driver is buggy.
v3: Fix inverted WARN_ON (Pekka).
v4: Drop the uapi changes, only add a WARN_ON for now to enforce some rules for drivers.
References: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2018-July/182281.html Bugzilla: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/issues/24#note_9568 Cc: Daniel Stone daniel@fooishbar.org Cc: Pekka Paalanen pekka.paalanen@collabora.co.uk Cc: Simon Ser contact@emersion.fr Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org Cc: Ville Syrjälä ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@intel.com --- drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c index 58527f151984..ef106e7153a6 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c @@ -281,6 +281,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__drm_atomic_state_free); * needed. It will also grab the relevant CRTC lock to make sure that the state * is consistent. * + * WARNING: Drivers may only add new CRTC states to a @state if + * drm_atomic_state.allow_modeset is set, or if it's a driver-internal commit + * not created by userspace through an IOCTL call. + * * Returns: * * Either the allocated state or the error code encoded into the pointer. When @@ -1262,10 +1266,15 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) struct drm_crtc_state *new_crtc_state; struct drm_connector *conn; struct drm_connector_state *conn_state; + unsigned requested_crtc = 0; + unsigned affected_crtc = 0; int i, ret = 0;
DRM_DEBUG_ATOMIC("checking %p\n", state);
+ for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i) + requested_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc); + for_each_oldnew_plane_in_state(state, plane, old_plane_state, new_plane_state, i) { ret = drm_atomic_plane_check(old_plane_state, new_plane_state); if (ret) { @@ -1313,6 +1322,24 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) } }
+ for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i) + affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc); + + /* + * For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the + * atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources. + * This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very + * effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow + * this for modeset commits. + * + * FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output + * so compositors know what's going on. + */ + if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) { + /* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */ + WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset); + } + return 0; } EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_check_only);
Hi,
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 19:18, Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);/** For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the* atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources.* This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very* effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow* this for modeset commits.** FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output* so compositors know what's going on.*/if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) {/* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset);}
Can we please add a DRM_DEBUG() here, regardless of the WARN_ON(), to let people know what's happening?
With that, R-b me.
Cheers, Daniel
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:18:34 +0200 Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
But in nonblocking mode userspace has then no idea this happened, which can lead to spurious EBUSY calls, both:
- when that other CRTC is currently busy doing a page_flip the ALLOW_MODESET commit can fail with an EBUSY
- on the other CRTC a normal atomic flip can fail with EBUSY because of the additional commit inserted by the kernel without userspace's knowledge
For blocking commits this isn't a problem, because everyone else will just block until all the CRTC are reconfigured. Only thing userspace can notice is the dropped frames without any reason for why frames got dropped.
Consensus is that we need new uapi to handle this properly, but no one has any idea what exactly the new uapi should look like. Since this has been shipping for years already compositors need to deal no matter what, so as a first step just try to enforce this across drivers better with some checks.
v2: Add comments and a WARN_ON to enforce this only when allowed - we don't want to silently convert page flips into blocking plane updates just because the driver is buggy.
v3: Fix inverted WARN_ON (Pekka).
v4: Drop the uapi changes, only add a WARN_ON for now to enforce some rules for drivers.
Dropped all addresses, because gmail refused to send this email otherwise.
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c index 58527f151984..ef106e7153a6 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c @@ -281,6 +281,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__drm_atomic_state_free);
- needed. It will also grab the relevant CRTC lock to make sure that the state
- is consistent.
- WARNING: Drivers may only add new CRTC states to a @state if
- drm_atomic_state.allow_modeset is set, or if it's a driver-internal commit
- not created by userspace through an IOCTL call.
- Returns:
- Either the allocated state or the error code encoded into the pointer. When
@@ -1262,10 +1266,15 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) struct drm_crtc_state *new_crtc_state; struct drm_connector *conn; struct drm_connector_state *conn_state;
unsigned requested_crtc = 0;
unsigned affected_crtc = 0; int i, ret = 0;
DRM_DEBUG_ATOMIC("checking %p\n", state);
for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)
requested_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);for_each_oldnew_plane_in_state(state, plane, old_plane_state, new_plane_state, i) { ret = drm_atomic_plane_check(old_plane_state, new_plane_state); if (ret) {
@@ -1313,6 +1322,24 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) } }
- for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)
affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);- /*
* For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the* atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources.* This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very* effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow* this for modeset commits.** FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output* so compositors know what's going on.
Hi,
I think telling userspace the affected_crtc mask would only solve half of the problem: it would allow userspace to avoid attempting flips on the other affected CRTCs until this modeset is done, but it doesn't stop this non-blocking modeset from EBUSY'ing because other affected CRTCs are busy flipping.
If the aim is to indicate userspace bugs with EBUSY, then EBUSY because of other CRTCs needs to be differentiable from EBUSY due to a mistake on this CRTC. Maybe the CRTC mask should instead be "conflicting/busy CRTCs", not simply "affected CRTCS"?
Userspace might also be designed to always avoid modesets while any CRTC is busy flipping. In that case any EBUSY would be an indication of a (userspace) bug and a "busy CRTCs" mask could help pinpoint the issue.
If userspace does a TEST_ONLY commit with a modeset on one CRTC and the driver pulls in another CRTC that is currently busy, will the test commit return with EBUSY?
If yes, and *if* userspace is single-threaded wrt. to KMS updates, that might offer a way to work around it in userspace. But if userspace is flipping other CRTCs from other threads, TEST_ONLY commit does not help because another thread may cut in and make a CRTC busy.
Thanks, pq
*/- if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) {
/* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset);- }
- return 0;
} EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_check_only);
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:17 AM Pekka Paalanen ppaalanen@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:18:34 +0200 Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
But in nonblocking mode userspace has then no idea this happened, which can lead to spurious EBUSY calls, both:
- when that other CRTC is currently busy doing a page_flip the ALLOW_MODESET commit can fail with an EBUSY
- on the other CRTC a normal atomic flip can fail with EBUSY because of the additional commit inserted by the kernel without userspace's knowledge
For blocking commits this isn't a problem, because everyone else will just block until all the CRTC are reconfigured. Only thing userspace can notice is the dropped frames without any reason for why frames got dropped.
Consensus is that we need new uapi to handle this properly, but no one has any idea what exactly the new uapi should look like. Since this has been shipping for years already compositors need to deal no matter what, so as a first step just try to enforce this across drivers better with some checks.
v2: Add comments and a WARN_ON to enforce this only when allowed - we don't want to silently convert page flips into blocking plane updates just because the driver is buggy.
v3: Fix inverted WARN_ON (Pekka).
v4: Drop the uapi changes, only add a WARN_ON for now to enforce some rules for drivers.
Dropped all addresses, because gmail refused to send this email otherwise.
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c index 58527f151984..ef106e7153a6 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c @@ -281,6 +281,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__drm_atomic_state_free);
- needed. It will also grab the relevant CRTC lock to make sure that the state
- is consistent.
- WARNING: Drivers may only add new CRTC states to a @state if
- drm_atomic_state.allow_modeset is set, or if it's a driver-internal commit
- not created by userspace through an IOCTL call.
- Returns:
- Either the allocated state or the error code encoded into the pointer. When
@@ -1262,10 +1266,15 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) struct drm_crtc_state *new_crtc_state; struct drm_connector *conn; struct drm_connector_state *conn_state;
unsigned requested_crtc = 0;unsigned affected_crtc = 0; int i, ret = 0; DRM_DEBUG_ATOMIC("checking %p\n", state);for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)requested_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);for_each_oldnew_plane_in_state(state, plane, old_plane_state, new_plane_state, i) { ret = drm_atomic_plane_check(old_plane_state, new_plane_state); if (ret) {@@ -1313,6 +1322,24 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) } }
for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);/** For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the* atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources.* This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very* effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow* this for modeset commits.** FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output* so compositors know what's going on.Hi,
I think telling userspace the affected_crtc mask would only solve half of the problem: it would allow userspace to avoid attempting flips on the other affected CRTCs until this modeset is done, but it doesn't stop this non-blocking modeset from EBUSY'ing because other affected CRTCs are busy flipping.
If the aim is to indicate userspace bugs with EBUSY, then EBUSY because of other CRTCs needs to be differentiable from EBUSY due to a mistake on this CRTC. Maybe the CRTC mask should instead be "conflicting/busy CRTCs", not simply "affected CRTCS"?
Userspace might also be designed to always avoid modesets while any CRTC is busy flipping. In that case any EBUSY would be an indication of a (userspace) bug and a "busy CRTCs" mask could help pinpoint the issue.
If userspace does a TEST_ONLY commit with a modeset on one CRTC and the driver pulls in another CRTC that is currently busy, will the test commit return with EBUSY?
If yes, and *if* userspace is single-threaded wrt. to KMS updates, that might offer a way to work around it in userspace. But if userspace is flipping other CRTCs from other threads, TEST_ONLY commit does not help because another thread may cut in and make a CRTC busy.
You'd also get this from TEST_ONLY commit, so userspace can: - wait for any affected crtc to complete out their pending updates, which avoids the EBUSY - do a blocking modeset (which avoids the EBUSY since it stalls either way) - insert a note into it's per-crtc draw loop/tracking that there will be another event inserted by the kernel that needs to be waited on
As long as this doesn't race with any other atomic commit or processing the event queue, this should be race free. And allow you to handle spurious EBUSY both here because of other pending flips, and in the next atomic flips because of this commit here.
Also I don't think the kernel needs to tell you which of these crtc are busy, since userspace knows that (by tracking outstanding events). Plus that information is racy anyway, you'll just have to synchronize with your drm event processing. -Daniel
Thanks, pq
*/if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) {/* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset);}return 0;} EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_check_only);
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:16 AM Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:17 AM Pekka Paalanen ppaalanen@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:18:34 +0200 Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
But in nonblocking mode userspace has then no idea this happened, which can lead to spurious EBUSY calls, both:
- when that other CRTC is currently busy doing a page_flip the ALLOW_MODESET commit can fail with an EBUSY
- on the other CRTC a normal atomic flip can fail with EBUSY because of the additional commit inserted by the kernel without userspace's knowledge
For blocking commits this isn't a problem, because everyone else will just block until all the CRTC are reconfigured. Only thing userspace can notice is the dropped frames without any reason for why frames got dropped.
Consensus is that we need new uapi to handle this properly, but no one has any idea what exactly the new uapi should look like. Since this has been shipping for years already compositors need to deal no matter what, so as a first step just try to enforce this across drivers better with some checks.
v2: Add comments and a WARN_ON to enforce this only when allowed - we don't want to silently convert page flips into blocking plane updates just because the driver is buggy.
v3: Fix inverted WARN_ON (Pekka).
v4: Drop the uapi changes, only add a WARN_ON for now to enforce some rules for drivers.
Dropped all addresses, because gmail refused to send this email otherwise.
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c index 58527f151984..ef106e7153a6 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c @@ -281,6 +281,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__drm_atomic_state_free);
- needed. It will also grab the relevant CRTC lock to make sure that the state
- is consistent.
- WARNING: Drivers may only add new CRTC states to a @state if
- drm_atomic_state.allow_modeset is set, or if it's a driver-internal commit
- not created by userspace through an IOCTL call.
- Returns:
- Either the allocated state or the error code encoded into the pointer. When
@@ -1262,10 +1266,15 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) struct drm_crtc_state *new_crtc_state; struct drm_connector *conn; struct drm_connector_state *conn_state;
unsigned requested_crtc = 0;unsigned affected_crtc = 0; int i, ret = 0; DRM_DEBUG_ATOMIC("checking %p\n", state);for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)requested_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);for_each_oldnew_plane_in_state(state, plane, old_plane_state, new_plane_state, i) { ret = drm_atomic_plane_check(old_plane_state, new_plane_state); if (ret) {@@ -1313,6 +1322,24 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) } }
for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);/** For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the* atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources.* This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very* effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow* this for modeset commits.** FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output* so compositors know what's going on.Hi,
I think telling userspace the affected_crtc mask would only solve half of the problem: it would allow userspace to avoid attempting flips on the other affected CRTCs until this modeset is done, but it doesn't stop this non-blocking modeset from EBUSY'ing because other affected CRTCs are busy flipping.
If the aim is to indicate userspace bugs with EBUSY, then EBUSY because of other CRTCs needs to be differentiable from EBUSY due to a mistake on this CRTC. Maybe the CRTC mask should instead be "conflicting/busy CRTCs", not simply "affected CRTCS"?
Userspace might also be designed to always avoid modesets while any CRTC is busy flipping. In that case any EBUSY would be an indication of a (userspace) bug and a "busy CRTCs" mask could help pinpoint the issue.
If userspace does a TEST_ONLY commit with a modeset on one CRTC and the driver pulls in another CRTC that is currently busy, will the test commit return with EBUSY?
If yes, and *if* userspace is single-threaded wrt. to KMS updates, that might offer a way to work around it in userspace. But if userspace is flipping other CRTCs from other threads, TEST_ONLY commit does not help because another thread may cut in and make a CRTC busy.
Forgot to explain this TEST_ONLY never returns EBUSY. That only happens when you commit and failed to wait for the previous frame to complete. Otherwise compositors would be somewhat screwed with being blocked instead being able to prep the next frame.
Also note that you'd get this information for any atomic ioctl, so also for direct commits. The _test_only suffix of this function here is just internals, the code flow in the ioctl is to always call this function first, and then optionally call the right commit function. -Daniel
You'd also get this from TEST_ONLY commit, so userspace can:
- wait for any affected crtc to complete out their pending updates,
which avoids the EBUSY
- do a blocking modeset (which avoids the EBUSY since it stalls either way)
- insert a note into it's per-crtc draw loop/tracking that there will
be another event inserted by the kernel that needs to be waited on
As long as this doesn't race with any other atomic commit or processing the event queue, this should be race free. And allow you to handle spurious EBUSY both here because of other pending flips, and in the next atomic flips because of this commit here.
Also I don't think the kernel needs to tell you which of these crtc are busy, since userspace knows that (by tracking outstanding events). Plus that information is racy anyway, you'll just have to synchronize with your drm event processing. -Daniel
Thanks, pq
*/if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) {/* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset);}return 0;} EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_check_only);
-- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch
I'm really not awake yet ...
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:17 AM Pekka Paalanen ppaalanen@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:18:34 +0200 Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
But in nonblocking mode userspace has then no idea this happened, which can lead to spurious EBUSY calls, both:
- when that other CRTC is currently busy doing a page_flip the ALLOW_MODESET commit can fail with an EBUSY
- on the other CRTC a normal atomic flip can fail with EBUSY because of the additional commit inserted by the kernel without userspace's knowledge
For blocking commits this isn't a problem, because everyone else will just block until all the CRTC are reconfigured. Only thing userspace can notice is the dropped frames without any reason for why frames got dropped.
Consensus is that we need new uapi to handle this properly, but no one has any idea what exactly the new uapi should look like. Since this has been shipping for years already compositors need to deal no matter what, so as a first step just try to enforce this across drivers better with some checks.
v2: Add comments and a WARN_ON to enforce this only when allowed - we don't want to silently convert page flips into blocking plane updates just because the driver is buggy.
v3: Fix inverted WARN_ON (Pekka).
v4: Drop the uapi changes, only add a WARN_ON for now to enforce some rules for drivers.
Dropped all addresses, because gmail refused to send this email otherwise.
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c index 58527f151984..ef106e7153a6 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c @@ -281,6 +281,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__drm_atomic_state_free);
- needed. It will also grab the relevant CRTC lock to make sure that the state
- is consistent.
- WARNING: Drivers may only add new CRTC states to a @state if
- drm_atomic_state.allow_modeset is set, or if it's a driver-internal commit
- not created by userspace through an IOCTL call.
- Returns:
- Either the allocated state or the error code encoded into the pointer. When
@@ -1262,10 +1266,15 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) struct drm_crtc_state *new_crtc_state; struct drm_connector *conn; struct drm_connector_state *conn_state;
unsigned requested_crtc = 0;unsigned affected_crtc = 0; int i, ret = 0; DRM_DEBUG_ATOMIC("checking %p\n", state);for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)requested_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);for_each_oldnew_plane_in_state(state, plane, old_plane_state, new_plane_state, i) { ret = drm_atomic_plane_check(old_plane_state, new_plane_state); if (ret) {@@ -1313,6 +1322,24 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) } }
for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);/** For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the* atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources.* This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very* effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow* this for modeset commits.** FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output* so compositors know what's going on.Hi,
I think telling userspace the affected_crtc mask would only solve half of the problem: it would allow userspace to avoid attempting flips on the other affected CRTCs until this modeset is done, but it doesn't stop this non-blocking modeset from EBUSY'ing because other affected CRTCs are busy flipping.
If the aim is to indicate userspace bugs with EBUSY, then EBUSY because of other CRTCs needs to be differentiable from EBUSY due to a mistake on this CRTC. Maybe the CRTC mask should instead be "conflicting/busy CRTCs", not simply "affected CRTCS"?
Userspace might also be designed to always avoid modesets while any CRTC is busy flipping. In that case any EBUSY would be an indication of a (userspace) bug and a "busy CRTCs" mask could help pinpoint the issue.
If userspace does a TEST_ONLY commit with a modeset on one CRTC and the driver pulls in another CRTC that is currently busy, will the test commit return with EBUSY?
If yes, and *if* userspace is single-threaded wrt. to KMS updates, that might offer a way to work around it in userspace. But if userspace is flipping other CRTCs from other threads, TEST_ONLY commit does not help because another thread may cut in and make a CRTC busy.
This is not a legit programming model for atomic. An atomic commit is always relative to the current state. If that state changes, then you need to re-run your TEST_ONLY commit. So multiple threads changing state in parallel isn't really a good idea anyway. Minimally we'd need some kind of TEST_ONLY pile-up, so you can validate a change assuming another commit has already happened. That's even harder than deep queues on the commit side, we'd probably need full rollback of commits. -Daniel
Thanks, pq
*/if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) {/* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset);}return 0;} EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_check_only);
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:26:39 +0200 Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
I'm really not awake yet ...
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:17 AM Pekka Paalanen ppaalanen@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:18:34 +0200 Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch wrote:
When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
If yes, and *if* userspace is single-threaded wrt. to KMS updates, that might offer a way to work around it in userspace. But if userspace is flipping other CRTCs from other threads, TEST_ONLY commit does not help because another thread may cut in and make a CRTC busy.
This is not a legit programming model for atomic. An atomic commit is always relative to the current state. If that state changes, then you need to re-run your TEST_ONLY commit. So multiple threads changing state in parallel isn't really a good idea anyway. Minimally we'd need some kind of TEST_ONLY pile-up, so you can validate a change assuming another commit has already happened. That's even harder than deep queues on the commit side, we'd probably need full rollback of commits.
Yes, very good point. I forgot that for a moment.
Thanks, pq
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 08:18:34PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
But in nonblocking mode userspace has then no idea this happened, which can lead to spurious EBUSY calls, both:
- when that other CRTC is currently busy doing a page_flip the ALLOW_MODESET commit can fail with an EBUSY
- on the other CRTC a normal atomic flip can fail with EBUSY because of the additional commit inserted by the kernel without userspace's knowledge
For blocking commits this isn't a problem, because everyone else will just block until all the CRTC are reconfigured. Only thing userspace can notice is the dropped frames without any reason for why frames got dropped.
Consensus is that we need new uapi to handle this properly, but no one has any idea what exactly the new uapi should look like. Since this has been shipping for years already compositors need to deal no matter what, so as a first step just try to enforce this across drivers better with some checks.
v2: Add comments and a WARN_ON to enforce this only when allowed - we don't want to silently convert page flips into blocking plane updates just because the driver is buggy.
v3: Fix inverted WARN_ON (Pekka).
v4: Drop the uapi changes, only add a WARN_ON for now to enforce some rules for drivers.
References: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2018-July/182281.html Bugzilla: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/issues/24#note_9568 Cc: Daniel Stone daniel@fooishbar.org Cc: Pekka Paalanen pekka.paalanen@collabora.co.uk Cc: Simon Ser contact@emersion.fr Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org Cc: Ville Syrjälä ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@intel.com
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c index 58527f151984..ef106e7153a6 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c @@ -281,6 +281,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__drm_atomic_state_free);
- needed. It will also grab the relevant CRTC lock to make sure that the state
- is consistent.
- WARNING: Drivers may only add new CRTC states to a @state if
- drm_atomic_state.allow_modeset is set, or if it's a driver-internal commit
- not created by userspace through an IOCTL call.
- Returns:
- Either the allocated state or the error code encoded into the pointer. When
@@ -1262,10 +1266,15 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) struct drm_crtc_state *new_crtc_state; struct drm_connector *conn; struct drm_connector_state *conn_state;
unsigned requested_crtc = 0;
unsigned affected_crtc = 0; int i, ret = 0;
DRM_DEBUG_ATOMIC("checking %p\n", state);
for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)
requested_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);for_each_oldnew_plane_in_state(state, plane, old_plane_state, new_plane_state, i) { ret = drm_atomic_plane_check(old_plane_state, new_plane_state); if (ret) {
@@ -1313,6 +1322,24 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) } }
- for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)
Inconsistent old vs. new.
affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);- /*
* For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the* atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources.* This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very* effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow* this for modeset commits.** FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output* so compositors know what's going on.*/- if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) {
/* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset);- }
I think this means pretty much all non-pageflip commits will have to have allow_modeset==true on i915 or else we just can't guarantee that we can anything (due to sagv and/or cdclk mainly).
Also a bit baffled that CI didn't hit this. I think it should be totally possible to hit this now. To avoid that I guess we'd just need to make intel_atomic_serialize_global_state() fail if it has to add any new crtcs when allow_modeset==false. Hopefully there aren't many other places that add crtcs to the state without forcing a modeset on them.
- return 0;
} EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_check_only); -- 2.28.0
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:31 PM Ville Syrjälä ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 08:18:34PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
When doing an atomic modeset with ALLOW_MODESET drivers are allowed to pull in arbitrary other resources, including CRTCs (e.g. when reconfiguring global resources).
But in nonblocking mode userspace has then no idea this happened, which can lead to spurious EBUSY calls, both:
- when that other CRTC is currently busy doing a page_flip the ALLOW_MODESET commit can fail with an EBUSY
- on the other CRTC a normal atomic flip can fail with EBUSY because of the additional commit inserted by the kernel without userspace's knowledge
For blocking commits this isn't a problem, because everyone else will just block until all the CRTC are reconfigured. Only thing userspace can notice is the dropped frames without any reason for why frames got dropped.
Consensus is that we need new uapi to handle this properly, but no one has any idea what exactly the new uapi should look like. Since this has been shipping for years already compositors need to deal no matter what, so as a first step just try to enforce this across drivers better with some checks.
v2: Add comments and a WARN_ON to enforce this only when allowed - we don't want to silently convert page flips into blocking plane updates just because the driver is buggy.
v3: Fix inverted WARN_ON (Pekka).
v4: Drop the uapi changes, only add a WARN_ON for now to enforce some rules for drivers.
References: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2018-July/182281.html Bugzilla: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/issues/24#note_9568 Cc: Daniel Stone daniel@fooishbar.org Cc: Pekka Paalanen pekka.paalanen@collabora.co.uk Cc: Simon Ser contact@emersion.fr Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org Cc: Ville Syrjälä ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter@intel.com
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c index 58527f151984..ef106e7153a6 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic.c @@ -281,6 +281,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__drm_atomic_state_free);
- needed. It will also grab the relevant CRTC lock to make sure that the state
- is consistent.
- WARNING: Drivers may only add new CRTC states to a @state if
- drm_atomic_state.allow_modeset is set, or if it's a driver-internal commit
- not created by userspace through an IOCTL call.
- Returns:
- Either the allocated state or the error code encoded into the pointer. When
@@ -1262,10 +1266,15 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) struct drm_crtc_state *new_crtc_state; struct drm_connector *conn; struct drm_connector_state *conn_state;
unsigned requested_crtc = 0;unsigned affected_crtc = 0; int i, ret = 0; DRM_DEBUG_ATOMIC("checking %p\n", state);for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)requested_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);for_each_oldnew_plane_in_state(state, plane, old_plane_state, new_plane_state, i) { ret = drm_atomic_plane_check(old_plane_state, new_plane_state); if (ret) {@@ -1313,6 +1322,24 @@ int drm_atomic_check_only(struct drm_atomic_state *state) } }
for_each_new_crtc_in_state(state, crtc, old_crtc_state, i)Inconsistent old vs. new.
Will fix, but also doesn't matter since I don't care about the state, just that it's in there.
affected_crtc |= drm_crtc_mask(crtc);/** For commits that allow modesets drivers can add other CRTCs to the* atomic commit, e.g. when they need to reallocate global resources.* This can cause spurious EBUSY, which robs compositors of a very* effective sanity check for their drawing loop. Therefor only allow* this for modeset commits.** FIXME: Should add affected_crtc mask to the ATOMIC IOCTL as an output* so compositors know what's going on.*/if (affected_crtc != requested_crtc) {/* adding other CRTC is only allowed for modeset commits */WARN_ON(!state->allow_modeset);}I think this means pretty much all non-pageflip commits will have to have allow_modeset==true on i915 or else we just can't guarantee that we can anything (due to sagv and/or cdclk mainly).
I guess not enough machines with multiple outputs in the shards.
Also a bit baffled that CI didn't hit this. I think it should be totally possible to hit this now. To avoid that I guess we'd just need to make intel_atomic_serialize_global_state() fail if it has to add any new crtcs when allow_modeset==false. Hopefully there aren't many other places that add crtcs to the state without forcing a modeset on them.
Oh we don't do that? That feels like a pretty bad bug ... Wacking random other crtc without allow_modeset is pretty nasty. -Daniel
return 0;} EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_atomic_check_only); -- 2.28.0
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