Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles show up to the system as HDMI devices, as they do not have a sink device in them to respond to any AUX traffic. When probing these dongles over the DDC, sometimes they will NAK the first attempt even though the transaction is valid and they support the DDC protocol. The retry loop inside of drm_do_probe_ddc_edid() would normally catch this case and try the transaction again, resulting in success.
That, however, was thwarted by the fix for fdo.org bug #41059. The patch is: commit 9292f37e1f5c79400254dca46f83313488093825 Author: Eugeni Dodonov eugeni.dodonov@intel.com Date: Thu Jan 5 09:34:28 2012 -0200
drm: give up on edid retries when i2c bus is not responding
This added code to exit immediately if the return code from the i2c_transfer function was -ENXIO in order to reduce the amount of time spent in waiting for unresponsive or disconnected devices. For the DP dongles, this means that the second retry never happens which results in a failed EDID probe and a black screen.
To work around this problem without undoing the fix for bug #41059, the number of retries is checked along with the return code. This allows for a device to NAK once and still continue operations. A second NAK will result in breaking the loop as it would have before and stopping the DDC probe.
Signed-off-by: Todd Previte tprevite@gmail.com Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org --- drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c | 5 ++++- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c index 7087da3..e8047bd 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c @@ -1238,7 +1238,10 @@ drm_do_probe_ddc_edid(void *data, u8 *buf, unsigned int block, size_t len) */ ret = i2c_transfer(adapter, &msgs[3 - xfers], xfers);
- if (ret == -ENXIO) { + /* Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles sometimes NAK the first probe + * Try to probe again but if it NAKs, stop trying + */ + if (ret == -ENXIO && retries < 5) { DRM_DEBUG_KMS("drm: skipping non-existent adapter %s\n", adapter->name); break;
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Todd Previte tprevite@gmail.com wrote:
Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles show up to the system as HDMI devices, as they do not have a sink device in them to respond to any AUX traffic. When probing these dongles over the DDC, sometimes they will NAK the first attempt even though the transaction is valid and they support the DDC protocol. The retry loop inside of drm_do_probe_ddc_edid() would normally catch this case and try the transaction again, resulting in success.
That, however, was thwarted by the fix for fdo.org bug #41059. The patch is: commit 9292f37e1f5c79400254dca46f83313488093825 Author: Eugeni Dodonov eugeni.dodonov@intel.com Date: Thu Jan 5 09:34:28 2012 -0200
drm: give up on edid retries when i2c bus is not responding
Some extra background:
That commit refers to the i2c bit banging code, while i915 now prefers gmbus, and only falls back to big banging on certain failures. (See gmbux_xfer() in i915/intel_i2c.c). This means that in most cases i915 is no longer susceptible to the 5*3 timeout loops, but it also means we don't have the i2c bit banging retry at all on -ENXIO, like Todd notes.
The questions are, is one retry after -ENXIO in drm_do_probe_ddc_edid enough now? Should we revert the original commit instead since the underlying algorithm has changed? Or should we return something other than -ENXIO from our gmbus code to not hit this exit with no retries path?
This added code to exit immediately if the return code from the i2c_transfer function was -ENXIO in order to reduce the amount of time spent in waiting for unresponsive or disconnected devices. For the DP dongles, this means that the second retry never happens which results in a failed EDID probe and a black screen.
To work around this problem without undoing the fix for bug #41059, the number of retries is checked along with the return code. This allows for a device to NAK once and still continue operations. A second NAK will result in breaking the loop as it would have before and stopping the DDC probe.
Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85924
Maybe throw this at other dongle bugs you can find too?
We're going to need Tested-bys though.
BR, Jani.
Signed-off-by: Todd Previte tprevite@gmail.com Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c | 5 ++++- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c index 7087da3..e8047bd 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c @@ -1238,7 +1238,10 @@ drm_do_probe_ddc_edid(void *data, u8 *buf, unsigned int block, size_t len) */ ret = i2c_transfer(adapter, &msgs[3 - xfers], xfers);
if (ret == -ENXIO) {
/* Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles sometimes NAK the first probe* Try to probe again but if it NAKs, stop trying*/if (ret == -ENXIO && retries < 5) { DRM_DEBUG_KMS("drm: skipping non-existent adapter %s\n", adapter->name); break;-- 1.9.1
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On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:28:48AM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Todd Previte tprevite@gmail.com wrote:
Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles show up to the system as HDMI devices, as they do not have a sink device in them to respond to any AUX traffic. When probing these dongles over the DDC, sometimes they will NAK the first attempt even though the transaction is valid and they support the DDC protocol. The retry loop inside of drm_do_probe_ddc_edid() would normally catch this case and try the transaction again, resulting in success.
That, however, was thwarted by the fix for fdo.org bug #41059. The patch is: commit 9292f37e1f5c79400254dca46f83313488093825 Author: Eugeni Dodonov eugeni.dodonov@intel.com Date: Thu Jan 5 09:34:28 2012 -0200
drm: give up on edid retries when i2c bus is not responding
Some extra background:
That commit refers to the i2c bit banging code, while i915 now prefers gmbus, and only falls back to big banging on certain failures. (See gmbux_xfer() in i915/intel_i2c.c). This means that in most cases i915 is no longer susceptible to the 5*3 timeout loops, but it also means we don't have the i2c bit banging retry at all on -ENXIO, like Todd notes.
The questions are, is one retry after -ENXIO in drm_do_probe_ddc_edid enough now? Should we revert the original commit instead since the underlying algorithm has changed? Or should we return something other than -ENXIO from our gmbus code to not hit this exit with no retries path?
Jani&I dug around a bit on this on irc and it looks like a proper i2c implementation should indeed retry on the first ENXIO, except when the I2C_M_IGNORE_NAK flag is set. There's piles of examples how to do it, but it's clear that we've never done this properly in our gmbus driver.
Can you please test whether fixing that in intel_i2c.c does resolve the issue too? It would at least explain a lot of the fallback troubles we've had with gmbus and i2c slaves not waking up in time, which all got magically resolved by falling back to the bit-banging interface (which does this retrying already).
Thanks, Daniel
This added code to exit immediately if the return code from the i2c_transfer function was -ENXIO in order to reduce the amount of time spent in waiting for unresponsive or disconnected devices. For the DP dongles, this means that the second retry never happens which results in a failed EDID probe and a black screen.
To work around this problem without undoing the fix for bug #41059, the number of retries is checked along with the return code. This allows for a device to NAK once and still continue operations. A second NAK will result in breaking the loop as it would have before and stopping the DDC probe.
Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85924
Maybe throw this at other dongle bugs you can find too?
We're going to need Tested-bys though.
BR, Jani.
Signed-off-by: Todd Previte tprevite@gmail.com Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c | 5 ++++- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c index 7087da3..e8047bd 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c @@ -1238,7 +1238,10 @@ drm_do_probe_ddc_edid(void *data, u8 *buf, unsigned int block, size_t len) */ ret = i2c_transfer(adapter, &msgs[3 - xfers], xfers);
if (ret == -ENXIO) {
/* Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles sometimes NAK the first probe* Try to probe again but if it NAKs, stop trying*/if (ret == -ENXIO && retries < 5) { DRM_DEBUG_KMS("drm: skipping non-existent adapter %s\n", adapter->name); break;-- 1.9.1
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On 5/21/2015 1:28 AM, Jani Nikula wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015, Todd Previte tprevite@gmail.com wrote:
Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles show up to the system as HDMI devices, as they do not have a sink device in them to respond to any AUX traffic. When probing these dongles over the DDC, sometimes they will NAK the first attempt even though the transaction is valid and they support the DDC protocol. The retry loop inside of drm_do_probe_ddc_edid() would normally catch this case and try the transaction again, resulting in success.
That, however, was thwarted by the fix for fdo.org bug #41059. The patch is: commit 9292f37e1f5c79400254dca46f83313488093825 Author: Eugeni Dodonov eugeni.dodonov@intel.com Date: Thu Jan 5 09:34:28 2012 -0200
drm: give up on edid retries when i2c bus is not responding
Some extra background:
That commit refers to the i2c bit banging code, while i915 now prefers gmbus, and only falls back to big banging on certain failures. (See gmbux_xfer() in i915/intel_i2c.c). This means that in most cases i915 is no longer susceptible to the 5*3 timeout loops, but it also means we don't have the i2c bit banging retry at all on -ENXIO, like Todd notes.
The questions are, is one retry after -ENXIO in drm_do_probe_ddc_edid enough now? Should we revert the original commit instead since the underlying algorithm has changed? Or should we return something other than -ENXIO from our gmbus code to not hit this exit with no retries path?
Question #1: During development and testing, all of the passive dongles used would NAK once before operating correctly. I had an additional dongle here that I tested as well and it exhibited the exact same behavior. While I believe that more testing certainly needs to be done (as you mention below) at this point I would say allowing a single NAK is sufficient to solve this problem.
Question #2: While I agree to some extent that this patch is dated with respect to the underlying algorithm changes, there still appears to be some value in keeping it since it does allow for more efficient processing of disconnected ports. So I would recommend against reverting this commit right now.
Question #3: I'm looking into this now. I'll have more information by the end of the day.
This added code to exit immediately if the return code from the i2c_transfer function was -ENXIO in order to reduce the amount of time spent in waiting for unresponsive or disconnected devices. For the DP dongles, this means that the second retry never happens which results in a failed EDID probe and a black screen.
To work around this problem without undoing the fix for bug #41059, the number of retries is checked along with the return code. This allows for a device to NAK once and still continue operations. A second NAK will result in breaking the loop as it would have before and stopping the DDC probe.
Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85924
Maybe throw this at other dongle bugs you can find too?
We're going to need Tested-bys though.
BR, Jani.
Definitely - I'll go wrangle up the dongle bugs I can find on kernel.org and FDO and see if this affects them.
As for testing, the more the merrier on this front. If anyone has passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles and the ability to test them, please see the bug Jani referenced above and report your findings there.
-T
Signed-off-by: Todd Previte tprevite@gmail.com Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c | 5 ++++- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c index 7087da3..e8047bd 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_edid.c @@ -1238,7 +1238,10 @@ drm_do_probe_ddc_edid(void *data, u8 *buf, unsigned int block, size_t len) */ ret = i2c_transfer(adapter, &msgs[3 - xfers], xfers);
if (ret == -ENXIO) {
/* Passive DP->DVI/HDMI dongles sometimes NAK the first probe* Try to probe again but if it NAKs, stop trying*/if (ret == -ENXIO && retries < 5) { DRM_DEBUG_KMS("drm: skipping non-existent adapter %s\n", adapter->name); break;-- 1.9.1
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