Dear Radeon Devs,
What's the support status of the AMD FirePro W5170M and AMD FirePro W5130M. I'm confused as to whether these will support 'radeonsi' or 'amdgpu'. After doing exhaustive research I've come across codenames like Tropo XT/LE and Mars XT/LE. On some forums a pci-id was mentioned '6821' but I can't find this anywhere in the pcidb lists in either 'xf86-video-amdgpu' or 'xf86-video-ati'.
When I looked at the the Radeon feature matrix on [1] I'm unable to categorize these two GPU models into any of the categories S.Islands, C.Islands or V.Islands. So are these GPU's supported by 'radeonsi' or by 'amdgpu'? If they're 'radeonsi' what's the support like for those models, can I expect relatively good performance?
Thank you!
--- Alex G.S.
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Alex G.S. alxgrtnstrngl@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Radeon Devs,
What's the support status of the AMD FirePro W5170M and AMD FirePro W5130M. I'm confused as to whether these will support 'radeonsi' or 'amdgpu'. After doing exhaustive research I've come across codenames like Tropo XT/LE and Mars XT/LE. On some forums a pci-id was mentioned '6821' but I can't find this anywhere in the pcidb lists in either 'xf86-video-amdgpu' or 'xf86-video-ati'.
When I looked at the the Radeon feature matrix on [1] I'm unable to categorize these two GPU models into any of the categories S.Islands, C.Islands or V.Islands. So are these GPU's supported by 'radeonsi' or by 'amdgpu'? If they're 'radeonsi' what's the support like for those models, can I expect relatively good performance?
The are Cape Verde based asics (Southern Islands family). They are supported by the radeon kernel module and they use the radeonsi mesa driver for 3D, etc. amdgpu is a kernel driver for VI (Volcanic Islands) and newer parts. The radeonsi mesa driver supports SI and CI parts supported by the radeon kernel driver and VI parts supported by the amdgpu kernel driver.
Alex
Thank you!
--- Alex G.S.
[1] http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
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Am 08.01.2016 um 21:00 schrieb Alex G.S.:
What's the support status of the AMD FirePro W5170M and AMD FirePro W5130M. I'm confused as to whether these will support 'radeonsi' or 'amdgpu'.
I think that is a false dichotomy. The (free) Linux driver consists of a kernel part and a (or actual several) userspace components.
For the kernel part there is the "radeon" driver and the new "amdgpu" driver. Mesa contains a "r600g" and a "radeonsi" part (+ other drivers for really old hw).
Even the newest GCN 1.2 cards are powered by radeonsi in userspace - just using the amdgpu kernel driver.
According to [1] both the FirePro W5170M and the FirePro W5130M are GCN 1.0 cards which means - IIRC(!) - that they use the "radeon" kernel driver (and the radeonsi mesa driver.
[1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/9684/amd-announces-firepro-mobile-w7170m-w5170...
I'm pretty sure that the 5170M and 5130M are both based on the Cape Verde GPU, so they would use the radeon stack rather than the amdgpu stack. Note that "radeonsi" refers to the Mesa GL driver, which is used with both radeon and amdgpu - it's primarily the kernel driver that is different between the stacks.
You can run lspci -nn to get the PCI IDs for the parts (if you have access to HW). If not, I believe the DID for 5170M was 0x6820 but it can vary from one OEM to the next. Couldn't find a reference ID for the 5130M but 6821 might be it.
Support for the parts should be pretty solid although if the IDs aren't yet in the driver source then the drivers won't recognize them until that is changed.
From: dri-devel [mailto:dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Alex G.S. Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 3:01 PM To: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: AMD: amdgpu/radeonsi support for mobile FirePro?
Dear Radeon Devs,
What's the support status of the AMD FirePro W5170M and AMD FirePro W5130M. I'm confused as to whether these will support 'radeonsi' or 'amdgpu'. After doing exhaustive research I've come across codenames like Tropo XT/LE and Mars XT/LE. On some forums a pci-id was mentioned '6821' but I can't find this anywhere in the pcidb lists in either 'xf86-video-amdgpu' or 'xf86-video-ati'.
When I looked at the the Radeon feature matrix on [1] I'm unable to categorize these two GPU models into any of the categories S.Islands, C.Islands or V.Islands. So are these GPU's supported by 'radeonsi' or by 'amdgpu'? If they're 'radeonsi' what's the support like for those models, can I expect relatively good performance?
Thank you!
--- Alex G.S.
Thank you for the information, this was very helpful and I'm looking forward to testing the hardware out.
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Bridgman, John John.Bridgman@amd.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the 5170M and 5130M are both based on the Cape Verde GPU, so they would use the radeon stack rather than the amdgpu stack. Note that "radeonsi" refers to the Mesa GL driver, which is used with both radeon and amdgpu - it's primarily the kernel driver that is different between the stacks.
You can run lspci -nn to get the PCI IDs for the parts (if you have access to HW). If not, I believe the DID for 5170M was 0x6820 but it can vary from one OEM to the next. Couldn't find a reference ID for the 5130M but 6821 might be it.
Support for the parts should be pretty solid although if the IDs aren't yet in the driver source then the drivers won't recognize them until that is changed.
*From:* dri-devel [mailto:dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org] *On Behalf Of *Alex G.S. *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 3:01 PM *To:* dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org *Subject:* AMD: amdgpu/radeonsi support for mobile FirePro?
Dear Radeon Devs,
What's the support status of the AMD FirePro W5170M and AMD FirePro W5130M. I'm confused as to whether these will support 'radeonsi' or 'amdgpu'. After doing exhaustive research I've come across codenames like Tropo XT/LE and Mars XT/LE. On some forums a pci-id was mentioned '6821' but I can't find this anywhere in the pcidb lists in either 'xf86-video-amdgpu' or 'xf86-video-ati'.
When I looked at the the Radeon feature matrix on [1] I'm unable to categorize these two GPU models into any of the categories S.Islands, C.Islands or V.Islands. So are these GPU's supported by 'radeonsi' or by 'amdgpu'? If they're 'radeonsi' what's the support like for those models, can I expect relatively good performance?
Thank you!
--- Alex G.S.
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