https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
Summary: External LCD monitor flickers every 30 seconds radeon mobility x1400 Product: DRI Version: unspecified Platform: x86 (IA32) OS/Version: Linux (All) Status: NEW Severity: critical Priority: medium Component: DRM/Radeon AssignedTo: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org ReportedBy: prijatelj.mp3@gmail.com
OS: ArchLnux driver: 6.14.0-1 kernel: 2.6.37-5 libdrm: 2.4.23-1 mesa: 7.10.0.git20110206-2 KMS: yes graphic card: mobility x1400
----------------------- To reproduce. LCD monitor is plugged into laptop. While KDE4 is loading external monitor flickeres once. When KDE4 is already loaded external monitor flickers twice in a row with 2 seconds delay. One flick is lasting about one second. Then external lcd monitor flickers every 30 seconds. It also flickeres if I just type a command: 'xrandr'.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
--- Comment #1 from Alex Deucher agd5f@yahoo.com 2011-02-13 13:58:53 PST --- This sounds like monitor polling on the analog port. Disable it by booting with drm_kms_helper.poll=0 on your kernel command line in grub. Also make sure kde is not polling the monitors itself in the background at regular intervals.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
comio luigi.mantellini@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #2 from comio luigi.mantellini@gmail.com 2011-02-14 08:20:47 PST --- (In reply to comment #1)
This sounds like monitor polling on the analog port. Disable it by booting with drm_kms_helper.poll=0 on your kernel command line in grub. Also make sure kde is not polling the monitors itself in the background at regular intervals.
OK I have the same issue. I surely disable the polling in kms... but I don't know where I can disable the monitor polling in KDE... any idea?
thanks
luigi
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--- Comment #3 from Alex Deucher agd5f@yahoo.com 2011-02-14 08:29:08 PST --- (In reply to comment #2)
OK I have the same issue. I surely disable the polling in kms... but I don't know where I can disable the monitor polling in KDE... any idea?
I'm not that familiar with kde. I've heard knotify might do it. You might want to ask on one of the kde mailing lists or kde bugzilla.
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--- Comment #4 from comio luigi.mantellini@gmail.com 2011-02-14 10:45:50 PST --- (In reply to comment #3)
(In reply to comment #2)
OK I have the same issue. I surely disable the polling in kms... but I don't know where I can disable the monitor polling in KDE... any idea?
I'm not that familiar with kde. I've heard knotify might do it. You might want to ask on one of the kde mailing lists or kde bugzilla.
poll=0 doesn't solve the problem. Anyway... I think that knotify4 is the culprit.
ciao
luigi
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--- Comment #5 from comio luigi.mantellini@gmail.com 2011-02-14 11:00:19 PST --- My configuration is very similar to Joze: OS: Gentoo driver: video-ati 6.14.0 kernel: 2.6.37 libdrm: 2.4.23 mesa: 7.10 KMS: yes graphic card: mobility x1400
PC Dell Inspiron 6400
The second screen is not usable... and I don't understand how I can disable the polling.
ciao
luigi
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--- Comment #6 from comio luigi.mantellini@gmail.com 2011-02-14 11:25:23 PST --- Can be related?
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170920
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
Alex Deucher agd5f@yahoo.com changed:
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--- Comment #7 from Alex Deucher agd5f@yahoo.com 2011-02-14 12:15:54 PST --- (In reply to comment #6)
Can be related?
Probably the same issue. This is most likely a KDE issue rather than a driver issue.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
--- Comment #8 from comio luigi.mantellini@gmail.com 2011-02-14 12:44:42 PST --- This seems to be related (I will check asap)
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26552
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
--- Comment #9 from Jože Prijatelj prijatelj.mp3@gmail.com 2011-02-15 08:48:42 PST --- (In reply to comment #8)
This seems to be related (I will check asap)
This is not a KDE4 related. I experience this also with xmonad, openbox, lxde...
@Comio I also have this problems as on that link you pasted: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26552 I've also uploaded a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjhAknBoJDE
Has anyone found a solution yet to one or another bug? (if they are even related) or do we have to wait for next kernel release?
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
--- Comment #10 from comio luigi.mantellini@gmail.com 2011-02-15 08:54:25 PST --- (In reply to comment #9)
(In reply to comment #8)
This seems to be related (I will check asap)
This is not a KDE4 related. I experience this also with xmonad, openbox, lxde...
@Comio I also have this problems as on that link you pasted: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26552 I've also uploaded a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjhAknBoJDE
Has anyone found a solution yet to one or another bug? (if they are even related) or do we have to wait for next kernel release?
Try to use the old pll (new_pll=0 option). My problem is different: when the software probes the second screen (like xrandr -q) the external monitor shows for a second a black screen. The solution seems to disable the krandr periodical probe... but I will test in this afternoon at home.
best regards.
luigi
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--- Comment #11 from Alex Deucher agd5f@yahoo.com 2011-02-15 09:20:54 PST --- I think there may be several different issues here: 1. blinking when probing displays 2. unstable display all the time
If you have an unstable display all the time, please try Dave's drm-fixes kernel tree: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=r...
If you just have display problems when probing the displays (either manually with xrandr or polling by kde) you'll need to disable the polling.
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--- Comment #12 from Jože Prijatelj prijatelj.mp3@gmail.com 2011-02-15 09:35:40 PST --- (In reply to comment #11)
I think there may be several different issues here:
- blinking when probing displays
- unstable display all the time
If you have an unstable display all the time, please try Dave's drm-fixes kernel tree: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=r...
If you just have display problems when probing the displays (either manually with xrandr or polling by kde) you'll need to disable the polling.
Wow. radeon.new_pll=0 solved the every 30 seconds flickering. I have running krandr in KDE4 and it doesn't flicker.
So this bug should be marked as solved?
Now I have to try Dave's drm-fixes (Which is another bug).
Thank you comio. Thank you Alex Deucher for that link. I'm gonna try it.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
--- Comment #13 from Alex Deucher agd5f@yahoo.com 2011-02-15 09:45:54 PST --- (In reply to comment #12)
Wow. radeon.new_pll=0 solved the every 30 seconds flickering. I have running krandr in KDE4 and it doesn't flicker.
So this bug should be marked as solved?
Now I have to try Dave's drm-fixes (Which is another bug).
Thank you comio. Thank you Alex Deucher for that link. I'm gonna try it.
the new_pll option was removed in 2.6.37, so you probably just disabled kms. I'd recommend drm-fixes as it contains several pll fixes that should fix your problem.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
--- Comment #14 from Thierry Vignaud thierry.vignaud@gmail.com 2011-03-02 01:55:46 PST --- I've tried 2.6.38-rc6-git 7 (which seems to include Dave's drm-fixes) w/o any success. I still got intermitent black screen. For the record, my LCD is behind a KVM that corrupts EDID thus making the kernel to keep loudly complaining in dmesg
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34237
--- Comment #15 from Alex Deucher agd5f@yahoo.com 2011-03-02 07:28:27 PST --- (In reply to comment #14)
I've tried 2.6.38-rc6-git 7 (which seems to include Dave's drm-fixes) w/o any success. I still got intermitent black screen. For the record, my LCD is behind a KVM that corrupts EDID thus making the kernel to keep loudly complaining in dmesg
It it happens it regular intervals it sounds like some sort of polling. Have you tried drm_kms_helper.poll=0? Also, make sure knotify or upowerd are not polling the monitors regularly.
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