nouveau: temperature on nv40 is unavailable since ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954
Hello,
after commit ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954 temperature information from lm sensors is not available on my Nvidia 6600GT graphics card. There is no nouveau hwmon entry in sysfs anymore. Why it was removed? Can I help with debugging? I'd like to see temperature sensor working again.
On 13/08/2013 05:56, Pali Rohár wrote:
Hello,
after commit ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954 temperature information from lm sensors is not available on my Nvidia 6600GT graphics card. There is no nouveau hwmon entry in sysfs anymore. Why it was removed? Can I help with debugging? I'd like to see temperature sensor working again.
Hi,
Thanks for bisecting the issue. Can you send me your vbios and tell me if the nvidia driver shows your temperature probe (and what is its source).
To fetch your vbios, you can extract it using nvagetbios from the envytools repo: https://github.com/envytools/envytools
Cheers, Martin
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 05:56, Pali Rohár wrote:
Hello,
after commit ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954 temperature information from lm sensors is not available on my Nvidia 6600GT graphics card. There is no nouveau hwmon entry in sysfs anymore. Why it was removed? Can I help with debugging? I'd like to see temperature sensor working again.
Hi,
Thanks for bisecting the issue. Can you send me your vbios and tell me if the nvidia driver shows your temperature probe (and what is its source).
To fetch your vbios, you can extract it using nvagetbios from the envytools repo: https://github.com/envytools/envytools
Cheers, Martin
How can I check source and temperature probe in nvidia binary driver?
On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 05:56, Pali Rohár wrote:
Hello,
after commit ad40d73ef533ab0ad16b4a1ab2f7870c1f8ab954 temperature information from lm sensors is not available on my Nvidia 6600GT graphics card. There is no nouveau hwmon entry in sysfs anymore. Why it was removed? Can I help with debugging? I'd like to see temperature sensor working again.
Hi,
Thanks for bisecting the issue. Can you send me your vbios and tell me if the nvidia driver shows your temperature probe (and what is its source).
To fetch your vbios, you can extract it using nvagetbios from the envytools repo: https://github.com/envytools/envytools
Cheers, Martin
How can I check source and temperature probe in nvidia binary driver?
You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and I'm not sure we should :s
Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
... You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and I'm not sure we should :s
Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:
Thermal Sensor Information: ID: 0 Target: GPU Provider: GPU Internal Temperature: 70 C (now)
I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
... You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and I'm not sure we should :s
Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:
Thermal Sensor Information: ID: 0 Target: GPU Provider: GPU Internal Temperature: 70 C (now)
I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
...
You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and I'm not sure we should :s
Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:
Thermal Sensor Information: ID: 0 Target: GPU Provider: GPU Internal Temperature: 70 C (now)
I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
...
You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and I'm not sure we should :s
Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:
Thermal Sensor Information: ID: 0 Target: GPU Provider: GPU Internal Temperature: 70 C (now)
I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
Sorry for the late answer.
Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau will be higher than with the blob. I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be to use the blob and run: nvapeek 0x15b0 Please send me the result along with the temperature reported by nvidia at the time of the peek.
Martin
PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access to an nv4x right now.
On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote:
...
You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and I'm not sure we should :s
Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:
Thermal Sensor Information: ID: 0 Target: GPU Provider: GPU Internal Temperature: 70 C (now)
I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
Sorry for the late answer.
Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau will be higher than with the blob. I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be to use the blob and run: nvapeek 0x15b0 Please send me the result along with the temperature reported by nvidia at the time of the peek.
Martin
PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access to an nv4x right now.
Hello,
now after patch nouveau report temperature:
$ sensors ... nouveau-pci-0500 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +63.0°C (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +3.0°C) (crit = +145.0°C, hyst = +2.0°C) (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst = +5.0°C) ...
I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia- settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE ... GPU 0000:05:00.0 Temperature Gpu : 70 C
Immediately I called nvapeek command:
$ nvapeek 0x15b0 000015b0: 1000008e
So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by nvidia binary driver.
I wait some some and started nvidia-smi and nvapeek again, here are results:
$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE ... GPU 0000:05:00.0 Temperature Gpu : 67 C
$ nvapeek 0x15b0 000015b0: 1000008e
So it looks like that nvapeek returning always same value and does not depends on temperature... It is OK?
On 15/08/2013 03:24, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote: > On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote: ...
You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia doesn't support it on your card and I'm not sure we should :s
Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration values.
In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:
Thermal Sensor Information: ID: 0 Target: GPU Provider: GPU Internal Temperature: 70 C (now)
I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
Sorry for the late answer.
Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau will be higher than with the blob. I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be to use the blob and run: nvapeek 0x15b0 Please send me the result along with the temperature reported by nvidia at the time of the peek.
Martin
PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access to an nv4x right now.
Hello,
now after patch nouveau report temperature:
$ sensors ... nouveau-pci-0500 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +63.0°C (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +3.0°C) (crit = +145.0°C, hyst = +2.0°C) (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst = +5.0°C)
Ok, that was expected ;)
...
I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia- settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE ... GPU 0000:05:00.0 Temperature Gpu : 70 C
Immediately I called nvapeek command:
$ nvapeek 0x15b0 000015b0: 1000008e
So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by nvidia binary driver.
As you didn't run nvapeek 15b0 when running nouveau it is hard to tell if it is due to calibration values or because the temperature was lower.
Could you please read the temperature + peek 15b0 when running nouveau?
Anyway, it is weird because I cannot find 70°C with 0x8e as an input temperature and with the current default values :o
I wait some some and started nvidia-smi and nvapeek again, here are results:
$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE ... GPU 0000:05:00.0 Temperature Gpu : 67 C
$ nvapeek 0x15b0 000015b0: 1000008e
So it looks like that nvapeek returning always same value and does not depends on temperature... It is OK?
Well, it looks like the temperature reading is very noisy! Could you please get the temperature + peek when the card is as hot as possible?
There is a very effective solution to get a GPU hot, use a hair drier. If you could get your GPU to at 110°C (or less, if you feel like it is too much), that could help me check the formula and default values.
PS: I attached a new version of the patch that should improve the temperature accuracy for nv43s. Could you test it and send me your kernel log?
On Thursday 15 August 2013 18:21:51 Martin Peres wrote:
On 15/08/2013 03:24, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote:
On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
wrote:
> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote: >> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote: > ... > > You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. > If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia > doesn't support it on your card and > I'm not sure we should :s > > Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the > others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature > anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration > values.
In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> "Thermal Settings" is:
Thermal Sensor Information: ID: 0 Target: GPU Provider: GPU Internal Temperature: 70 C (now)
I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program reading same values.
Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
Sorry for the late answer.
Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau will be higher than with the blob. I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be to use the blob and run: nvapeek 0x15b0 Please send me the result along with the temperature reported by nvidia at the time of the peek.
Martin
PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access to an nv4x right now.
Hello,
now after patch nouveau report temperature:
$ sensors ... nouveau-pci-0500 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +63.0°C (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +3.0°C)
(crit = +145.0°C, hyst = +2.0°C) (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst = +5.0°C)Ok, that was expected ;)
...
I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia- settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE ... GPU 0000:05:00.0
Temperature Gpu : 70 CImmediately I called nvapeek command:
$ nvapeek 0x15b0 000015b0: 1000008e
So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by nvidia binary driver.
As you didn't run nvapeek 15b0 when running nouveau it is hard to tell if it is due to calibration values or because the temperature was lower.
I run it and it always reported value 000000ff (also when temperature changed).
Could you please read the temperature + peek 15b0 when running nouveau?
Anyway, it is weird because I cannot find 70°C with 0x8e as an input temperature and with the current default values :o
My idea is that register does not contains temperature. Both nouveau and nvidia driver when show different temperature it does not show different output from "nvapeek 0x15b0".
Now I started computer with nouveau driver. Temperature is incresing, but nvapeek 0x15b0 is still same.
So do you really needs other tests with nvapeek 0x15b0? Is that register correct?
I wait some some and started nvidia-smi and nvapeek again, here are results:
$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE ... GPU 0000:05:00.0
Temperature Gpu : 67 C$ nvapeek 0x15b0 000015b0: 1000008e
So it looks like that nvapeek returning always same value and does not depends on temperature... It is OK?
Well, it looks like the temperature reading is very noisy! Could you please get the temperature + peek when the card is as hot as possible?
There is a very effective solution to get a GPU hot, use a hair drier. If you could get your GPU to at 110°C (or less, if you feel like it is too much), that could help me check the formula and default values.
PS: I attached a new version of the patch that should improve the temperature accuracy for nv43s. Could you test it and send me your kernel log?
On 16/08/2013 09:14, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Thursday 15 August 2013 18:21:51 Martin Peres wrote:
On 15/08/2013 03:24, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Thursday 15 August 2013 04:07:24 Martin Peres wrote:
On 14/08/2013 05:02, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 15:55:28 Martin Peres wrote:
On 13/08/2013 09:53, Pali Rohár wrote: > On utorok, 13. augusta 2013 15:32:45 CEST, Martin Peres
wrote:
>> On 13/08/2013 09:23, Pali Rohár wrote: >>> On Tuesday 13 August 2013 09:01:19 Martin Peres wrote: >> ... >> >> You can check the temperature by running nvidia-settings. >> If you can't see the temperature in it, then nvidia >> doesn't support it on your card and >> I'm not sure we should :s >> >> Thanks for the vbios you sent me in private. For the >> others, the reason why he doesn't have temperature >> anymore is because his vbios lacks sensor calibration >> values. > In nvidia-settings tab "GPU 0 - (GeForce 6600 GT)" --> > "Thermal Settings" is: > > Thermal Sensor Information: > ID: 0 > Target: GPU > Provider: GPU Internal > Temperature: 70 C (now) > > I looked in Windows program SpeedFan. It found Nvidia PCI > card and reported "GPU Temp" about 68-70 C. So it looks > like both nvidia driver and windows SpeedFan program > reading same values. Great, I'll cook you a patch in a bit and you'll see what the temperature is like. It won't be perfectly accurate but there is some kind of default for nvidia cards of this generation.
Ok, send me patch and I can try it if it will work and report similar values as windows or nvidia driver.
Sorry for the late answer.
Please test this patch. Be aware that temperature with nouveau will be higher than with the blob. I only want to see if nouveau reports a temperature.
The only way to be sure if the values are good-enough would be to use the blob and run: nvapeek 0x15b0 Please send me the result along with the temperature reported by nvidia at the time of the peek.
Martin
PS: This patch has only be compile-tested, I don't have access to an nv4x right now.
Hello,
now after patch nouveau report temperature:
$ sensors ... nouveau-pci-0500 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +63.0°C (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +3.0°C)
(crit = +145.0°C, hyst = +2.0°C) (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst = +5.0°C)Ok, that was expected ;)
...
I found that nvidia binary driver has command line utility nvidia-smi which report same temperature as X utility nvidia- settings. So I will use nvidia-smi (if it is OK).
And after reboot nvidia report another temperature value:
$ nvidia-smi -q -d TEMPERATURE ... GPU 0000:05:00.0
Temperature Gpu : 70 CImmediately I called nvapeek command:
$ nvapeek 0x15b0 000015b0: 1000008e
So value reported by nouveau is lower than value reported by nvidia binary driver.
As you didn't run nvapeek 15b0 when running nouveau it is hard to tell if it is due to calibration values or because the temperature was lower.
I run it and it always reported value 000000ff (also when temperature changed).
Seems like we may not calibrate the ADC correctly, this is weird.
Could you please read the temperature + peek 15b0 when running nouveau?
Anyway, it is weird because I cannot find 70°C with 0x8e as an input temperature and with the current default values :o
My idea is that register does not contains temperature. Both nouveau and nvidia driver when show different temperature it does not show different output from "nvapeek 0x15b0".
Now I started computer with nouveau driver. Temperature is incresing, but nvapeek 0x15b0 is still same.
So do you really needs other tests with nvapeek 0x15b0? Is that register correct?
I want you to be really sure that 15b0 doesn't change with temperature ON THE PROPRIETARY driver. This is very serious if this is not the case.
If this is not the case, then you must have an i2c device from which the blob is reading temperature and this device isn't detected by Nouveau.
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